Faithful readers of Campy Only
know that we've been outspoken in our criticism of the
new 9-speed component gruppos (Record and Chorus this
year debuted 9 speeds; it is expected that lower gruppos
will start switching to 9-speed in the coming years). We
questioned "Why?" Why jam another gear into an
already crowded cassette? Why make your existing 8-speed
shifters, derailleurs, and wheels obsolete? Why create
problems for neutral support in races, who must now carry
8- and 9-speed wheels?
Well, the answer to many of those questions, according
to a factory spokesman from Vicenza, is that ShimaNO was
going to release a 9-speed group. ShimaNO (which
announces its new offerings at least a year ahead of time
to allow the bicycle manufacturers to order the stuff)
had begun working on a 9-speed gruppo. Like it or not,
Campagnolo had to follow. Not to do so would have placed
Campy at a psychological advantage--they would be left
behind in technology, which Campy has vowed not to do
after their near-disasters of the early 80s, when they
stuck with non-indexed shifting far too long.
So, we now live in a world in which one single
cassette holds almost as many gears as your old ten-speed
used to. Combined with two chainrings, you can now have
up to 18 different gear ratios to choose from.
We also live in a world in which the parts of your
drivetrain which are destined to wear out the fastest are
getting thinner and thinner, placed more and more stress
on the ever-smaller area of contact between chain and
cog. Tolerances are closer, adjustments more critical.
Is it worth it? To help us answer
that question, Campagnolo sent us a
brand-new Chorus 9-speed gruppo, which
we mounted on our faithful Merlin road bike. The
following, based on our early testing, are our first
impressions of this latest leap in technology. (For a
complete breakdown of how 9-speed and 8-speed compare and
are mostly incompatible, check out our Tips and Trivia section.)
QUICK GUIDE TO OUR REVIEW
We
Like It. All reservations
about unnecessary technology aside, it's great having all
those gears back there. We agree with other 9-speed
riders we've spoken with that it seems like there are
more than 9 cogs in the cassette--it seems like 10 or 11.
That's just psychological, but having 9 gears to choose
from is lots of fun. And, there's definitely a sizeable
"gee whiz" factor to this gruppo. For the
moment, it's a rare sight on the road, and it's fun to
show it off to your fellow riders. The level of finish is
excellent (the polish on the hubs and seatpost is
mirror-like; you could use it to shave with), although we
wonder why Campy didn't spend a little more time on the
back side of the cranks. Another nice touch: Everything
now says "Chorus" on it. Gone are the days when
you needed a field guide to tell which gruppo a part
belonged to.
It Works Fine,
But . . . After using 9-speed for a month now,
we have very few complaints. We were able to set up the
gruppo very easily in our home shop, and everything
worked fine the first time out. The indexing is right on,
and Campy's improvements to the Exa-Drive cassette make
it possible to shift all over the cogs at any time. Want
to shift to a larger cog while you're climbing out of the
saddle? Go ahead. The ramps on the cogs will pick up the
chain and move it with only a minimum of complaint. You
can't do this with Super Record! The brakes work
great--perhaps too well. We never had any
problems stopping with our Chorus monoplanar brakes, and
the new dual-pivot models work about 200% better. What
that means is that you can practically launch yourself
over the bars with these brakes. They have certainly put
to rest the old jokes about Campy's "speed
attenuators" (born in the days when brakes worked
best at slowing one down somewhat). For a few more
thoughts on our 9-speed stuff, see our Addendum.
A Word or Two
About Shifting Did we say the shifting was good?
Correct that--it's great! Downshifts (to a
larger cog) in particular are so smooth you'll find
yourself looking back to see if the chain has moved.
Upshifts (to a smaller cog) are crisp and instantaneous.
And if that wasn't enough, the shifts are also easier. We
switched from a set of '93 Record Ergo levers, and the
difference in shifting was immediately apparent. Some
might complain that Campy has gone in the direction of
ShimaNO shifting, but the action now is much lighter,
thanks to ball bearings inside the shift mechanism and
springs that help compensate for the action of the
springs in the derailleurs. In fact, if you're used to
the older-style levers, you;ll likely find yourself
overshifting a bit at the start, since it's now so much
easier.
A Minor Complaint
Try as we might, we're still suffering from a high level
of chain noise in some gear combinations. We can't adjust
it away--a slight buzzing in the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th gears
(counting from the smallest cog). The chain doesn't skip,
and it doesn't threaten to jump out of gear--it just
makes more noise than in the other gears, when it's
virtually silent. (More on those
noises here.)
Neat Stuff If
you're into looking at your components up close, you'll
find plenty to like with the new Chorus gruppo. Small
details abound, like the tiny resin guide inside the
parallelogram on the rear derailleur, which reduces the
already minimal friction between the return spring and
the derailleur body. There's a similar resin
friction-fighter on the brakes. Other neat features
include the tiny spring clips that cover the grease ports
on the hubs. Look real close, and you'll see
"Campagnolo" engraved into the shiny stainless
steel. We've already mentioned the excellent shifting of
the Exa-Drive cassette, but there's more to like there,
too. The cogs have a polished surface, and they're
drilled out and lightened almost in the manner of a
1970's racing bike.
Unnecessary Stuff?
There's lots of neat stuff, but we have to ask
"Why" about some of it. Example: the dual-pivot
brakes sport two tiny allen screws, which use a miniscule
2mm wrench to micro-adjust the centering of the brakes
and to adjust the brake "feel." Nice touch, but
we wonder whether those tiny parts will cause problems in
the long run.
Conclusions?
We'll admit, 9 speeds are great. We made the jump from
7-speed freewheel to 9-speed cassette, and it's a whole
new world. When we changed from friction to index
shifting, we started shifting more, and riding became
more pleasurable. The switch to Ergo power increased
shifting and efficiency even more. And going to 9-speed
is another quantum leap. If you like your current 12-21
cassette, for instance, you can now carry a 23-tooth
"granny gear" while retaining all of your
existing gears. Or, you can fit yet another gear into
your current range. The end result is greater choice, and
the ability to select just the right gear for any given
situation. But there's still that nagging question: Is it
really necessary? The genie is out of the bottle, of
course, but would it have been better to stick with 8
speeds?
Road Test Update We're
riding our new 9-speed stuff regularly. Here are a few
additional thoughts:
- The front derailleur is great.
Combined with the pickup pins and ramps on the
chainrings, shifts to the large chainring are
very easy. But perhaps the best feature is the
wide range of gears which can be accommodated by
the derailleur's cage. After shifting to the
large chainrings, I can go from the 11 all the
way to the 17 (a total of seven cogs) without
needing to re-trim the front derailleur.
- The Exa-Drive system has one small quirk.
Based on my experience riding the bike, it seems
like the chain waits for the helical ramps on the
cassette to come around before starting to move.
No big deal at a high cadence, but there's a
discernable pause at ver y low pedaling speeds.
In the old days, this wouldn't be a
problems--cogs didn't have ramps. It's only a
tiny quirk, but worth noting here.
- We're still getting some noise from the
cassette, but it's getting quieter. It
sometimes makes a difference whether a cog is
shifted down to or up to. In
general, a cog which is shifted up to
will often run quieter. Can't explain why, but
that's the way it seems. (Noise Update!)
- Oh, those quick release skewers.
For years, Campy's levers have been distinguished
by their classic design--and their extreme
weight. Any number of aftermarket skewers are
available which weight much, much less (and cost
about the same). For 1997, Campy has redesigned
their levers. The ends are now made of aluminum
(with steel inserts at the lever and locknut),
and the lever has been made smaller and more
modern-looking. But the lever and the skewer are
still made of steel (even in the Record model),
making them substantially heavier than they need
to be. We have never heard of a Ti skewer
breaking, so longevity shouldn't be behind
Campy's decision to stick with steel. Maybe next
year they'll offer a skewer/lever combination
that matches the competition.
- Have we fixed that buzzing noise?
Maybe. We followed the advice of a reader and
lubricated the bottom bracket cable guide. That
solved most of the noise! Sometimes, a simple fix
is the best . . .
- That annoying buzzing
noise! It's not nearly as loud as it
used to be, but it's still there. Our friends at
Campy tech support can't really help, although we
have heard from other 9-speed users who have
exactly the same symptoms. Campy's advice? Lube
the control cables, and use a slightly thicker
chain lube (we use White Lightning). Not a whole
lot of help. We recently disassembled our
cassette, wiped off all the cogs, and then
reassembled it. That helped a bit.
- BTW, we saw no wear on the alloy cassette body,
even after more than 1,000 miles of use.
- Did we mention how easy it is to lube your hubs
with the built-in grease ports? Just stick your
grease gun between the spokes, squeeze a few
times, and you're done! (Teh grease,
incidentally, goes from the inside out, to flush
out the old stuff.)
Does
Campy have a little secret
they don't want us to know? One of our readers
wrote in to report that his experiment worked. What did
he do? Simpoy used an 8-speed rear derailleur with a new
9-speed Ergo lever and cassette. He reports that
everything works just fine. This little secret could make
your conversion from 8 to 9 speeds about $150 to $200
cheaper!
But Beware! One of our readers ( webmaster@campyonly.com
) sent the following:
I read with
interest your section on a reader revealing that he
got an 8V rear derailleur to work on 9V. I would not
recommend it andfurthermore it is DANGEROUS. The
upper pulley and inside cage on the 9V derailleur has
been carefully narrowed to increase spoke clearance.
While the 8V derailleur may work on some frames,
carefully adjusted, and under ideal circumstances, it
leaves very little margin for error.
Now consider when one usually shifts into one's
lowest gear- on a terrible grade and usually at low
RPM's and with a lot of pressure; that is the Ergo
lever is usually jammed over pretty good, not exactly
a delicate operation. Now consider what happens when
the derailleur goes into the spokes under these same
circumstances. The derailleur is ruined, the wheel is
hurt pretty badly, the derailleur hanger and dropout
are damaged possibly beyond repair, and the rider
probably falls and sustains whatever injury is in the
cards on that occasion. No, that $150-$200 is looking
pretty cheap. Just remember the good folks at
Campagnolo respect the people who buy their parts. I
know first-hand that they consider their customers to
be "family". They are currently having
trouble meeting demand for the new 9V components and
do not need to trick people into buying unnecessary
parts. Deception and planned obsolescence are the
modus operandi of the marketing driven slimeballs of
Shimano, not Campagnolo. I don't want to sound
humorless, but in this politically correct age, I
would think that there is a more appropriate term for
the good folks at Campagnolo than
"pastaheads". If I could become as
accomplished as the folks at Campagnolo by being a
pastahead, pass the linguini.
9-Speed
Feedback
We're interested in your thoughts
on 9-speed shifting. webmaster@campyonly.com, and let us know about your pro- or
anti-nine-speed sentiments. We'll print the best letters
here.
Your Thoughts About 9 Speeds:
Will your 8-speed stuff
convert to 9-speed? One of our readers says
"Yes" Go
here to find out how!
(Thanks to webmaster@campyonly.com)
I am a casual rider that is
aware of the finer things in life. Sorry
"boys" but I am still stuck between 7 and
8. The compatibility problem existed on that move as
it did even more on the 6 to 7. My equipment seems to
outlast the fads. At less than 2000 km a year by the
time I need new brake hoods they are not
manufactured. The only NEW an IMPROVED that would
impress me would be a line that is meant to last 10
years with room for growth and complete
interchangeability. Come to think of it the Campy
stuff is so good that they go bankrupt fast if they
did not force everybody to throw away their
"outdated" components.
Louis-Philippe Provencher (webmaster@campyonly.com)
P.S. My English may not be as good as it should feel
free to fix any problem. Maybe I feel like that
because I am too poor to play along?
You're a copycat coward,
Campagnolo!
I'm only 15 years old and my bike is fitted with a
mixture of campag equipment. And for Christmas my
parents got me a real nice set of 96 Chorus
Ergolevers and I couldn't have asked for anything
better.
I have steadily made my way up through the gears
starting at 5 and now up to eight which is plenty.
But I think Campag have made a big mistake with their
new nine speed system. I don't no why they just keep
copying off Shimano. First it was the ergolevers then
the dual-pivot brakes which campag have both done a
beautiful job of and kicks Shimano's butt in
performance. But this nine speed system is one step
overboard.
Who do they think we are? All professionals or
something? No one can afford it, and if you can your
practically up for a whole new bike anyway.
Even though Campag is still the best bike components
and probably always will be but this is one mistake
that they will probably regret.
From Damon Stefani (webmaster@campyonly.com)
(A keen Campag Fan.)
I caved in and bought the
Record nine speed drive train. My first complete,
ergo-drive train from Campagnolo. The thing is
delicious, The cogs seem very sturdy and the shifting
is mint. In a couple of years we
will all cave in and get one of these things.
It is Campy of course. The only thing I worry about
is the alloy freehub body, but it looks pretty beefy
IMHO. Let you know after I put a couple thousand
miles on it.
James
Long
The real disappointment, aside
from the technical concerns you raise (with which I
must completely concur), is that Campagnolo didn't
have the gonads to say, "No, riders don't need
it, we're not buying into some bloody fad." They
should have taken the high ground and made a logical
case for 8 speed, instead they showed that they are
following Shimano's marketing BS with respect to the
extra gear and the lack of backward compatibility.
I will not buy 9 speeds, period. I'm going to
stock up on 8 speed stuff once the closeouts get more
frequent.
If they had to go to 9 speed, at the very
least (and this would have given them a marketing
edge over Shitmano), they should have designed the
new cogsets to be compatible with the 8 speed hubs,
so that people could have saved their 8 speed wheels.
I wish that consumers would realize that
Bjarne and Miguel have a whole stable of bicycles and
components and mechanics to fix their problems,
whereas the rest of us will have to pay for broken
chains and prematurely worn out cogs.
webmaster@campyonly.com
We really have to admit that
Campy made a boo-boo. If it's really truth, Shitmano
9-speeds cassette fits on their 8-speeds hubs. Also,
I read that if you mount your cable on the other side
of the Dura-ace bolt it works with 8-speeds. I heard
that 8-speeds cassettes works fine with the 9-speed
groups, because they say it's just the chain that is
thinner and the cogs spacing has little changes from
8 to 9 speeds. In general, Campagnolo has done a Shit
in going to nine speeds. Who need it? In my rides I
use a 12-21 8sp, in which I hardly put on 12, 13 and
21. Just ONE time in my life I wish I had a 23. It
was in a really big (10 miles) climb in a race, but
next year I'll borrow a 12-23 cassette from a friend.
That's all, Marcelo Iannini webmaster@campyonly.com
Campy Nine Speed...I remember
having to switch from five to six, six to seven, then
finally last year..making it to eight when I went
from my Nuovo record to 1994 Chorus Ergo... (I will
admit to using a Shimano ultegra hub with SRP
spacers, but the rest is Campy...). First, I would
think that Campy has tried the shifting to prove its
durability So I doubt that durability will be a
problem at the level most people race at...Second,
Those who can afford the record can most likely
replace the parts that break (which is a rarity)...If
I read your tech
tips correctly...the Freehub can be
replaced with the nine speed variety making the wheel
problem almost negligible...If you are poor like me
and have to wait around for people to dump parts I
will wait for the 9-speed to trickle down through the
groups and into the wheel pits.
Campy plain rules and everyone's concerns here are
legitimate
James
Long
While
I agree that it is a bad move to give up
compatibility in the interests of one more cog, I do
think the 9-speed concept is technically interesting
on its own merits, because we're getting to the point
where you can pretty much do away with the front
derailleur. After all, if you've got a 12-23 in back,
then half your gears are probably overlaps anyhow.
Not sure how much weight we'd save by getting rid of
the second ring, front derailleur, and shifter, but
it would probably make time-trialists salivate.
Reliability is something we'll need to wait and see
on. It is possible that with improved metallurgy, the
new parts will outlast the old ones.
Shimano has long had a stupid practice of planned
obsolescence with its products, creating
incompatibilities for no apparent reason other than
to force new purchases. What a shame that all
component makers haven't tried to agree on some
standards, so that everybody's parts would reliably
interoperate, and what a shame to see Campy doing
likewise.
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